August 17, 2008
SERMON NOTES
AMAZING GRACE
August 17, 2008
INTRO
During the PASSING THE PEACE
QUESTION: Do you have more respect for people who say or do?
We will continue to wrestle from Batman the issue: IT’S NOT WHAT YOU SAY, IT’S WHAT YOU DO; that defines you” through the movie Amazing Grace
THREE WEEKS AGO - Brothers Karamazov
Point: If there is no God, all things are permissible
TWO WEEKS AGO - Citizen Kane
Point: Previous experience (“Rosebud”) can haunt us and impact our life and we can choose to respond by putting up “No Trespassing” signs.
LAST WEEK – Batman
Point: It’s not what you say, but what you do, that defines you (or action speak louder than words)
TODAY – “Amazing Grace”
This movie deserves more respect than it received.
SCRIPTURE # 1 – Romans 7: 14 - 20
14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
QUESTION: Is this you (do you agree)? What causes us to go against our own sense of right and wrong, or the established law of right and wrong? Do we have guiding principles that we subscribe to; but there is something else, another guiding principle that “vetoes” the guiding principles we follow?
QUESTION: What do you value more, intention or the actual act?
POINT
Do it! There are many variables when making a decisions. Some of these variables have the power to veto/trump a guiding principal in our lives.
Guiding Principle: Jesus is Lord!
Trump/veto: Myself is Lord (of my life);
Implication: Who do you trust? To make the best decisions for your life? God? Or Self?
Trust & Obey (for there is no other way, to be happy in Jesus, but to trust and obey)
IN HISTORY
Two weeks ago; wrestling with Citizen Kane and “Rosebud”; and other famous last words; James Adams on his deathbed said “Thomas Jefferson survives!” This says something about their relationship:
John Adams also said: “Abolish slavery!”
Thomas Jefferson did as well: “Abolish slavery!”
John never owned slaves.
Thomas never got rid of them.
Passing the Peace Question: Do you have more respect for people who say or do?
If we were only basing our value on this one issue, how would you answer?
Notice, the decision seems to also have other variables intertwined.
So, Thomas Jefferson has a principle, no slavery” but yet he retains slaves, why?
Question: Why do you suppose, Jefferson never got rid (even after death) of his slaves?
Many reasons? Bottom-line: ??? (self-preservation? $$??)
REMEMBER LAST WEEK: Does the end justify the means?
Is it possible that the end does justify the means when it comes to personal finances?
Implication: even good people guided by laudable principles can have a flaw or two impacting their decision making process?
Question: Does the end justify the means (guiding principle)
Remember: At times, a guiding principle can be vetoed by a more precious guiding principle (such as self-preservation).
SETTING THE SCENE CLIP not shown (0:0:35 – 0:1:05)
A. By the late 18th century, over eleven million African men, women and children had been taken from Africa (re: Citizen Kane & Batman, taken from “Rosebud”, i.e. their parents) to be used as slaves in the West Indies and the American colonies
B. Great Britain was the mightiest superpower on earth and its empire was built on the backs of slaves. The slave trade was considered acceptable by all but a few. (Why?)
C. Of those, even fewer were b rave enough to speak against it.
EDMUND BURKE (1729 - 1797)
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.
SETTING THE SCENE FOR CLIP #2
This scene will offend you. What offends you in this scene? The most? Duke of Clarence (son of the king) opposes abolishing the slave trade. In this scene, they are playing poker. William Wilberforce an abolitionist is considered a “tradesman.” Note how each person values human beings differently.
CLIP #2 (0:12:36 - 0:14:21)
Question: “Are you in or out?” (or, do you have the stomach to stay in the game?)
Question: Is a human being (the slave in this case) a “poker chip”?
Question: What disturbs you more, the use of the “N” word; or a person being played as a poker chip?
Question: If you are William Wilberforce, what do you do?
CLIPT #3 (0:14:22 - 0:15:00)
William Wilberforce responds “the games off.”
Question: Did he DO the right thing?
End Justify the Means
Question for last week: does the end justify the means?
Mill’s Utilitarian Vs Kant’s Deontology
Mill: The greatest good for the greatest amount of people
Can you free one slave with one hand of cards?
vs
Kant: the Moral Imperative or the Categorical imperative
the essence of the act is good or bad and the end/consequences are insignificant (duty)
The disturbing issue of a human being played as a “poker chip” in a game?
Note: Wilberforce is disgusted (for him the end does not justify the means in this particular situation).
Question: Is it possible for a situation that Wilberforce will choose the end to justify the means?
It must be admitted: That there are more variables in the decision making process (last week)
Scripture #2 – Matthew 21:28ff
MT 21:28 "What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first and said, `Son, go and work today in the vineyard.'
MT 21:29 " `I will not,' he answered, but later he changed his mind and went.
MT 21:30 "Then the father went to the other son and said the same thing. He answered, `I will, sir,' but he did not go.
MT 21:31 "Which of the two did what his father wanted?"
"The first," they answered.
Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. 32 For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him.
What’s the next step?
Moments later in the movie, Wilberforce responding to the “game” is frustrated.
His friend William Pitt (future Prime Minister) asks Wilberforce “don’t you believe we can change England (the issue of slavery)?”
Wilberforce says, “I would have to change myself first.”
(I have no idea what that means. But in the poker game, for Wilberforce, (the end does not justify the means;” will this have to change?
He will then sing in honor of Duke Clarence, a song he learned from his pastor, “Amazing Grace.”
(Call to Worship) “I once was lost, but now am found. Was blind, but now I see.”
DARK NIGHT OF THE SOUL – where the self is changed
Wilberforce says, “I would have to change myself first.” He needs to recognize his blindness and wait upon God to “see.”
Wilberforce will go through his own personal dark night of the soul. Wilberforce will consider a life of solitude in the priest hood. Seeking direction, He will seek the advice of John Newton.
John Newton (Amazing Grace)
John Newton was a captain of a slave ship for 20 years. He will say 20,000 Africans died as the result of his ship and journey. He will feel responsible for the death of 20,000 lives. He will become a Christian, a monk on Mondays and Wednesday and write the song, “Amazing Grace.”
Newton’s advice to Wilberforce about Wilberforce’s crossroads, of contemplating the life of solitude or politics, “You have work to do” (re: it is what you do that defines you”). This advice, and the advice of others (we humbly suggest you can do both” the work of god and that of the activist), will echo the concept “so heavenly minded and no earthly good.” Newton will go on to say, “Do it!” (3 times).
His best friend, William Pitt (the future Prime Minister) will help him to see that he is at the crossroads of God and politics; and say, you have a choice, either to “Praise the Lord” or change the World.” In other words, the principles of Christianity lead to action (do). You must choose.
Unfortunately, he will not be successful, year after year, failure
Setting the Scene for Clip #4 - FAILURE
In the words of the future fiancé of William Wilberforce:
“Every spring the daffodils come out; every summer the cherries ripened; every autumn William Wilberforce present his bill to the house (to abolish the slave trade).
And it fails, year after year.
In the words of William Wilberforce:
“I have been chosen for this task and I failed.”
Wilberforce’s failure will be so dismissal, that at one point in his failure he will be viewed as a traitor/revolutionary/seditious. He “Follows no leader but the preacher in his head and has no loyalty to the king.” Part of the evidence against him is that Wilberforce will receive countless letters from Thomas Jefferson (who is seen as stirring up revolution; in America and France; and now the concern, England). Wilberforce responds that the letters are all about abolishing slavery.
There are many reasons why Wilberforce will experience failure and defeat. He is opposing a powerful group of people, who have guiding principles that are being vetoed by many reasons; one of which is self-preservation ($$$$; or coolness; life-style). We only see the shadows when we begin to “know thyself.”
We can learn from these folks, we have guiding principles; but like the keepers of slavery, we may have an overarching guiding principle that trumps our moral guiding principles.
Interesting enough, this will also be the leverage that will help William Wilberforce experience victory.
PAY ATTENTION TO THE WORDS: “This is not a game for them”
Question: because it is not a game, does it allow “the ends to justify the means”?
CLIP #4 (1:32:38) - (1:33:44) - “We Cheat”
Question: Is it morally acceptable “to cheat” to stop what is morally wrong (or, does the end justify the means)? After all, it is about five years of defeats.
Setting the Scene for Clip # 5
The Prime Minister is golfing and is interrupted by William Wilberforce and companion to request a favor, informing him that they will not bring their usual bill of abolishing the slave trade (failure)
CLIP # 5 (1:34:42) - (1:37:34)
QUESTION: What would you do if you were the Prime Minister? Continue the deception?
Setting the Scene for Clip #5
As the scheme unfolds, notice all that was taken into consideration.
Clip # 6 (1:37:34) - (1:40:37)
The bill passed and the door was slowly closing on the slave trade
Point: The end of the slave trade began with “We cheat.”
QUESTION: Would you “cheat” to end what is morally wrong?
POINT: Not asking you to be a vigilante, but…dose the end justify the means?
Setting the Scene for the Postlude
It has been a 7 year battle. They are now preparing to vote to abolish the slave trade throughout the entire British Empire.
POSTLUDE: 1:46:16 - 1:53:33 (Final Vote, Speech & Amazing Grace)
NEXT WEEK (August 24):
MOVIE: Matrix
QUESTION: How clearly do we see?
SCRIPTURE: I Corinthians 13:12
POINT: Know Thyself
AMAZING GRACE
August 17, 2008
INTRO
During the PASSING THE PEACE
QUESTION: Do you have more respect for people who say or do?
We will continue to wrestle from Batman the issue: IT’S NOT WHAT YOU SAY, IT’S WHAT YOU DO; that defines you” through the movie Amazing Grace
THREE WEEKS AGO - Brothers Karamazov
Point: If there is no God, all things are permissible
TWO WEEKS AGO - Citizen Kane
Point: Previous experience (“Rosebud”) can haunt us and impact our life and we can choose to respond by putting up “No Trespassing” signs.
LAST WEEK – Batman
Point: It’s not what you say, but what you do, that defines you (or action speak louder than words)
TODAY – “Amazing Grace”
This movie deserves more respect than it received.
SCRIPTURE # 1 – Romans 7: 14 - 20
14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do--this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.
QUESTION: Is this you (do you agree)? What causes us to go against our own sense of right and wrong, or the established law of right and wrong? Do we have guiding principles that we subscribe to; but there is something else, another guiding principle that “vetoes” the guiding principles we follow?
QUESTION: What do you value more, intention or the actual act?
POINT
Do it! There are many variables when making a decisions. Some of these variables have the power to veto/trump a guiding principal in our lives.
Guiding Principle: Jesus is Lord!
Trump/veto: Myself is Lord (of my life);
Implication: Who do you trust? To make the best decisions for your life? God? Or Self?
Trust & Obey (for there is no other way, to be happy in Jesus, but to trust and obey)
IN HISTORY
Two weeks ago; wrestling with Citizen Kane and “Rosebud”; and other famous last words; James Adams on his deathbed said “Thomas Jefferson survives!” This says something about their relationship:
John Adams also said: “Abolish slavery!”
Thomas Jefferson did as well: “Abolish slavery!”
John never owned slaves.
Thomas never got rid of them.
Passing the Peace Question: Do you have more respect for people who say or do?
If we were only basing our value on this one issue, how would you answer?
Notice, the decision seems to also have other variables intertwined.
So, Thomas Jefferson has a principle, no slavery” but yet he retains slaves, why?
Question: Why do you suppose, Jefferson never got rid (even after death) of his slaves?
Many reasons? Bottom-line: ??? (self-preservation? $$??)
REMEMBER LAST WEEK: Does the end justify the means?
Is it possible that the end does justify the means when it comes to personal finances?
Implication: even good people guided by laudable principles can have a flaw or two impacting their decision making process?
Question: Does the end justify the means (guiding principle)
Remember: At times, a guiding principle can be vetoed by a more precious guiding principle (such as self-preservation).
SETTING THE SCENE CLIP not shown (0:0:35 – 0:1:05)
A. By the late 18th century, over eleven million African men, women and children had been taken from Africa (re: Citizen Kane & Batman, taken from “Rosebud”, i.e. their parents) to be used as slaves in the West Indies and the American colonies
B. Great Britain was the mightiest superpower on earth and its empire was built on the backs of slaves. The slave trade was considered acceptable by all but a few. (Why?)
C. Of those, even fewer were b rave enough to speak against it.
EDMUND BURKE (1729 - 1797)
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.
SETTING THE SCENE FOR CLIP #2
This scene will offend you. What offends you in this scene? The most? Duke of Clarence (son of the king) opposes abolishing the slave trade. In this scene, they are playing poker. William Wilberforce an abolitionist is considered a “tradesman.” Note how each person values human beings differently.
CLIP #2 (0:12:36 - 0:14:21)
Question: “Are you in or out?” (or, do you have the stomach to stay in the game?)
Question: Is a human being (the slave in this case) a “poker chip”?
Question: What disturbs you more, the use of the “N” word; or a person being played as a poker chip?
Question: If you are William Wilberforce, what do you do?
CLIPT #3 (0:14:22 - 0:15:00)
William Wilberforce responds “the games off.”
Question: Did he DO the right thing?
End Justify the Means
Question for last week: does the end justify the means?
Mill’s Utilitarian Vs Kant’s Deontology
Mill: The greatest good for the greatest amount of people
Can you free one slave with one hand of cards?
vs
Kant: the Moral Imperative or the Categorical imperative
the essence of the act is good or bad and the end/consequences are insignificant (duty)
The disturbing issue of a human being played as a “poker chip” in a game?
Note: Wilberforce is disgusted (for him the end does not justify the means in this particular situation).
Question: Is it possible for a situation that Wilberforce will choose the end to justify the means?
It must be admitted: That there are more variables in the decision making process (last week)
Scripture #2 – Matthew 21:28ff
MT 21:28 "What do you think? There was a man who had two sons. He went to the first and said, `Son, go and work today in the vineyard.'
MT 21:29 " `I will not,' he answered, but later he changed his mind and went.
MT 21:30 "Then the father went to the other son and said the same thing. He answered, `I will, sir,' but he did not go.
MT 21:31 "Which of the two did what his father wanted?"
"The first," they answered.
Jesus said to them, "I tell you the truth, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are entering the kingdom of God ahead of you. 32 For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him.
What’s the next step?
Moments later in the movie, Wilberforce responding to the “game” is frustrated.
His friend William Pitt (future Prime Minister) asks Wilberforce “don’t you believe we can change England (the issue of slavery)?”
Wilberforce says, “I would have to change myself first.”
(I have no idea what that means. But in the poker game, for Wilberforce, (the end does not justify the means;” will this have to change?
He will then sing in honor of Duke Clarence, a song he learned from his pastor, “Amazing Grace.”
(Call to Worship) “I once was lost, but now am found. Was blind, but now I see.”
DARK NIGHT OF THE SOUL – where the self is changed
Wilberforce says, “I would have to change myself first.” He needs to recognize his blindness and wait upon God to “see.”
Wilberforce will go through his own personal dark night of the soul. Wilberforce will consider a life of solitude in the priest hood. Seeking direction, He will seek the advice of John Newton.
John Newton (Amazing Grace)
John Newton was a captain of a slave ship for 20 years. He will say 20,000 Africans died as the result of his ship and journey. He will feel responsible for the death of 20,000 lives. He will become a Christian, a monk on Mondays and Wednesday and write the song, “Amazing Grace.”
Newton’s advice to Wilberforce about Wilberforce’s crossroads, of contemplating the life of solitude or politics, “You have work to do” (re: it is what you do that defines you”). This advice, and the advice of others (we humbly suggest you can do both” the work of god and that of the activist), will echo the concept “so heavenly minded and no earthly good.” Newton will go on to say, “Do it!” (3 times).
His best friend, William Pitt (the future Prime Minister) will help him to see that he is at the crossroads of God and politics; and say, you have a choice, either to “Praise the Lord” or change the World.” In other words, the principles of Christianity lead to action (do). You must choose.
Unfortunately, he will not be successful, year after year, failure
Setting the Scene for Clip #4 - FAILURE
In the words of the future fiancé of William Wilberforce:
“Every spring the daffodils come out; every summer the cherries ripened; every autumn William Wilberforce present his bill to the house (to abolish the slave trade).
And it fails, year after year.
In the words of William Wilberforce:
“I have been chosen for this task and I failed.”
Wilberforce’s failure will be so dismissal, that at one point in his failure he will be viewed as a traitor/revolutionary/seditious. He “Follows no leader but the preacher in his head and has no loyalty to the king.” Part of the evidence against him is that Wilberforce will receive countless letters from Thomas Jefferson (who is seen as stirring up revolution; in America and France; and now the concern, England). Wilberforce responds that the letters are all about abolishing slavery.
There are many reasons why Wilberforce will experience failure and defeat. He is opposing a powerful group of people, who have guiding principles that are being vetoed by many reasons; one of which is self-preservation ($$$$; or coolness; life-style). We only see the shadows when we begin to “know thyself.”
We can learn from these folks, we have guiding principles; but like the keepers of slavery, we may have an overarching guiding principle that trumps our moral guiding principles.
Interesting enough, this will also be the leverage that will help William Wilberforce experience victory.
PAY ATTENTION TO THE WORDS: “This is not a game for them”
Question: because it is not a game, does it allow “the ends to justify the means”?
CLIP #4 (1:32:38) - (1:33:44) - “We Cheat”
Question: Is it morally acceptable “to cheat” to stop what is morally wrong (or, does the end justify the means)? After all, it is about five years of defeats.
Setting the Scene for Clip # 5
The Prime Minister is golfing and is interrupted by William Wilberforce and companion to request a favor, informing him that they will not bring their usual bill of abolishing the slave trade (failure)
CLIP # 5 (1:34:42) - (1:37:34)
QUESTION: What would you do if you were the Prime Minister? Continue the deception?
Setting the Scene for Clip #5
As the scheme unfolds, notice all that was taken into consideration.
Clip # 6 (1:37:34) - (1:40:37)
The bill passed and the door was slowly closing on the slave trade
Point: The end of the slave trade began with “We cheat.”
QUESTION: Would you “cheat” to end what is morally wrong?
POINT: Not asking you to be a vigilante, but…dose the end justify the means?
Setting the Scene for the Postlude
It has been a 7 year battle. They are now preparing to vote to abolish the slave trade throughout the entire British Empire.
POSTLUDE: 1:46:16 - 1:53:33 (Final Vote, Speech & Amazing Grace)
NEXT WEEK (August 24):
MOVIE: Matrix
QUESTION: How clearly do we see?
SCRIPTURE: I Corinthians 13:12
POINT: Know Thyself
















